B'z Net Party T-Shirts?

[Arthuro]

Hello everyone,

after seeing those nice B'z goodies B made, I was wondering, why we don't have B'z Net Party T-Shirts.
So we can show other ppl that we're 1) B'z fans and 2)B'z Net Party members 
Furthermore, I think this is a pretty nice idea, since it's hard to get ahold of official B'z shirts, and to be honest,
they don't look THAT good.

Does anybody know a good company/service that'll do the T-Shirt printing for us, and is willing to handle all this?
If so, then we could move on to talking about the design 

I'm still new in this kind of field, so I'm gonna do some research and ask my friends. 

Tell me whatcha think!

Arthuro

[Lebon14]

That's a good idea but we need some kind of logo, right?

I just thought about a logo which is the star from the 20th aniiversary logo but we replace the text by (according to status) :

(Admin) : B'z Net Party Admin
(Member) : B'z Net Party Member

Also, we could make some long-sleeved sweaters too with the same logo design.  I think we will not be able to give everyone this for free and the earnings would go for the domain maintainance (fees and stuff).

Suggested prices, colors and size :

Kind of clothes	|	Available colors	|	Available sizes	|	Price (shipping included)
T-shirt	|	White, grey and black	|	XXS, XS, S, M, L, XL, XXL	|	18$ US, 16$ CAD, 13 euros, 1700 yens
Sweater	|	White, grey and black	|	XS, S, M, L, XL, XXL	|	28$ US, 25$ CAD, 20 euros, 2600 yens

Also, I want to say that I want to put the logo in the corner left (for a person's point-of-view) of the sweater/t-shirt, medium size.  Also, those who want all over the clothes can ask for it.  So that's my ideas.

Maybe more piece of clothes like pnats and socks? lol...
Anyway, let's discuss of this and let's make some logo

[Akai-Shuichi]

I don't think Admin T-Shirts is a good idea, just regular T-Shirts, having an Administration T-shirt seems like that person is saying they're better then the rest.

[jayz24]

Um, I know this is still in the planning stage, but would I need to have a credit card to be able to get a T-shirt or sweater? Just planning ahead also.

Thanks guys. I like this idea, and I agree with Akai-Shuichi that it might be better to have the same text. Well different is OK, but not different as in Admin/Member.

[Kaitoukidsama]

      Hmmm... Never in my life have I ever paid more than $6 USD for a shirt. But I may be willing to try to slice my budget for something like this... I agree, as the others do, with Akai about just B'z Net Party Member... For his reason plus ot just rolls off the tongue better.

       I would not be willing to buy a shirt that simply had the B'z 20th logo on it, because I could basically do that myself thru a scanner, printer, a white tee and an iron.
Would need photos of both Members. Because most people on the streets would never know who "B'z" is. (Unless you are from Asia)

[anjoschka178]

Wow thats a cool idea
I want a shirt :-)

But Lebon's idea isn't good. Why Admin Shirts? I think member isn't good too.

Only B'z Net Party with logo :-)

But how we can handle it?
I can't by shirts outside germany because i have no credit card.

And is the seize in every country the same?? I'm not sure.

[Keen]

I don't think Admin T-Shirts is a good idea, just regular T-Shirts, having an Administration T-shirt seems like that person is saying they're better then the rest.

Agreed.  Plus why would you want a shirt that said Admin of an online forum?


TJ and I came up with this back in the 2002 when we wanted T-shirts for Net Party (supposed to be white&red on black T-shirt).  It was quite expensive as our option back then was only Cafepress (but I still use them becoz they do good job  ) so we didn't go on with developing the project.  But everyone decided that the B'z part of the logo shouldn't be too obvious etc, so just like a secret sign between us B'z NP members.  Anyway I'm sure y'all can come up with very good ones.





Oh and just for inspiration (of what not to do hehe), B'z NP has already got a terribly rushed poorly designed logo by me.
http://www.geocities.com/bznetparty/bztop20.htm

[Arthuro]

I don't think we need separate t-shirts for admins and for members. It's supposed to be a generic t-shirt, nothing specific.
However, I agree on the point that we should have a bigger variety of clothes in the future 
I wouldn't set any prices yet as we don't know how much it'll cost.

As for shipping & payment related issues: I'd just say, that if someone's willing to volunteer, we could just do it this way:
1) Volunteer buys "ordered" t-shirt by Person
2) Person pays Volunteer via Paypal(I think that'd be the easiest way)
3) Volunteer confirms payment
4) Volunteer sends item

As for the logo... Keen you just inspired me...
It's quite a nice idea, but how about you arrange those red song titles so that you can actually see a pattern that says "B'z" on there . That'd be awesome.
I'd say that we take that for the front part of the shirt. And perhaps put a small B'z Net Party logo somewhere.
I'm not sure about the back yet.

Cafepress, eh? Lemme have a look there.

Cheers

Arthuro

[jayz24]

I love this! It's brilliant!

[Keen]

Hahaha if you guys wanna take the idea over and do a longer one please do so, by all means.  We did this when GREEN came out in 2002 so now B'z have a lot more suggestive titles like Action, X, Wake Up Right Now, Change The Future etc.  Like Athuro said maybe we can have different designs.  And I always like the idea of having some B'z songs title completely in Japanese (Kanji, Hiragana, Katakana), but some odd ones so even Japanese people can't decipher it unless they are B'z fans!!

Oh Athuro you'll notice as well that Cafepress cannot do big image, only small image in the centre of the shirt, so that's also one of the reason we didn't go ahead with this.  With Cafepress size, the writings on it can't be read!

Originally, this was supposed to be at the back of the shirt.  And the B'z logo is at the front, like Lebon said, left pocket small logo.  And so on and so on.

I am in the middle of moving house (again!) so can only help after New Year when we can get internet connection in the new house.  But you guys definitely go ahead and design without me.

I think everyone here should have a go with the design!

[ontto]

I don't think we need separate t-shirts for admins and for members. It's supposed to be a generic t-shirt, nothing specific.
However, I agree on the point that we should have a bigger variety of clothes in the future 
I wouldn't set any prices yet as we don't know how much it'll cost.

As for shipping & payment related issues: I'd just say, that if someone's willing to volunteer, we could just do it this way:
1) Volunteer buys "ordered" t-shirt by Person
2) Person pays Volunteer via Paypal(I think that'd be the easiest way)
3) Volunteer confirms payment
4) Volunteer sends item

As for the logo... Keen you just inspired me...
It's quite a nice idea, but how about you arrange those red song titles so that you can actually see a pattern that says "B'z" on there . That'd be awesome.
I'd say that we take that for the front part of the shirt. And perhaps put a small B'z Net Party logo somewhere.
I'm not sure about the back yet.

Cafepress, eh? Lemme have a look there.

Cheers

Arthuro

But if someone (like me) havent got paypal?  :'(

[Lebon14]

^ to ontto

Subscribe lol.  Or, maybe, you could send money instead...

OK... I remove my idea of "B'z Net Party Admin" since everyone is against it.

For myself, I wanted a small logo and not uberly huge because I hate wearing anything that has a very huge logo or anything in "fashion".

[anjoschka178]

Wow Keen thats really a nice idea

Arthuro: Your idea with a volunteer is quite good.
I got an account on paypal but never used it 

[nuralisya]

I'm now officially reviving this thread. lol

Been some time. Now that we have the B'z Net Party logo and the B'z logo I made, we should be able to start doing a sample T-Shirt, right?

What we have to do now:

1) Check the B'z logo again for errors(duplicate songs)

The B'z logo is here: http://www.offthelock.com/files/bztshirtlogo.png

The design of the logo will remain like that for now. I can change the colors freely, so I think it'll be available in more colors in the future.

2) We need to find companies/shops (cafepress?) that can do the job for us. It would be nice to find a shop for each region:

- America
- Europe
- Asia (?)

Later

Arthuro

oh i love the B'z NP's logo... really!
who create that? Keen? Arthuro? sugoii..!! *clap*

my opinion:
we still could get the merchandise cheap & reasonable production cost.
no matter what.
the only problem, delivery charges.
always killing my wallet.
and for those who dun have credit card.. need to use other method [bank transfer etc.]
need to pay more for bank charges & currency conversion.

plz consider this also... as world's economy still having bad recession XD

maybe the alternative way:
- Find out who's who living where [country]...
- put a volunteer as representative.. one country, one person who would in charge of this [printing, order & selling].
- buyer will direct purchase from representative.
- representative will report to Board - name list members who already bought.
- but make sure representative honest, not misused this and making own profit.

good luck for this project!

if this will available at malaysia.. definitely i'll buy!

[Lebon14]

Hi there nuralisya!  Actually, it will be too complicated to do what you want.  There's an online shop called www.cafepress.com that has an online printing and selling of t-shirts and stuff.  Obviously, without a credit card it's impossible to buy there.  BUT!  You can create a PayPal account and link it to a debit card/bak transfer and pay like that.

One other solution could be that someone is willing to order it for someone then send it back to him/her.

P.S Being in Malaysia doesn't help for PayPal :\